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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:06 am
by Nightshade
...is ACTUAL NAZI SCUM:

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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:10 am
by woodchip
Nightshade wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:06 am ...is ACTUAL NAZI SCUM:

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And a Trump hater to boot. So is he a liberal nazis or a nazis liberal

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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:28 am
by Ferno
who the ★■◆● is that?

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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:40 am
by Top Gun
TB's cousin?

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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:49 am
by Vander
This is why he hated Trump:
Robert Bowers wrote:Trump is a globalist, not a nationalist.

There is no #MAGA as long as there is a kike infestation.

#Qanon is here to get patriots that were against martial law in the 90's to be the ones begging for it now to drain muh swamp.

But go ahead and keep saying you are #Winning
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing he wasn't an evil Pelosi Democrat.

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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:59 am
by woodchip
Vander wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:49 am This is why he hated Trump:
Robert Bowers wrote:Trump is a globalist, not a nationalist.

There is no #MAGA as long as there is a kike infestation.

#Qanon is here to get patriots that were against martial law in the 90's to be the ones begging for it now to drain muh swamp.

But go ahead and keep saying you are #Winning
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing he wasn't an evil Pelosi Democrat.
While Nancy is many things, she is not even close to the shooters hate filled agenda. Perhaps people on both sides will now start toning down the hate rhetoric.

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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:23 pm
by Vander
woodchip wrote:Perhaps people on both sides will now start toning down the hate rhetoric.
Perhaps.
Also woodchip wrote:And a Trump hater to boot. So is he a liberal nazis or a nazis liberal
Perhaps not.

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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:34 pm
by Ferno
Oh that guy.

Yeah, he hates trump because trump wasn't extreme enough for him.

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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:04 pm
by Tunnelcat
woodchip wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:59 amWhile Nancy is many things, she is not even close to the shooters hate filled agenda. Perhaps people on both sides will now start toning down the hate rhetoric.
Nobody's said that this bastard is or was a Trump supporter. The Florida bomber fell into that category, but not this guy. But what they both have in COMMON is that they were INSPIRED by Trump, his actions and his nasty political rhetoric and the blame casting of the left and his enemies (both liberal and conservative) in both government and the media. His supporters take that for strength, but it's really a sign of weakness, that he needs to stroke his ego by riling up his "base" just to get their adulation and cheers. So now our leaders and people in the media are telling everyone that they should just cool down? Well, how about we start with Donald J. Trump shutting the open cesspool of a mouth that spews rhetoric and vitriol every time he opens it? Trump wants the left to calm down? So quit calling them every foul name you can think of or accusing them of every wacko right wing conspiracy theory out there. Trump wants the White Nationalists and Neo Nazis to calm down? So quit blaming the left and the media for your own failures and misdeeds, then turning around and using your national podium to spew garbage, dog whistle politics and crazy rhetoric, like the left is out to destroy our country and that we need to stop them at all costs by dredging up every foul name he can think of to describe his enemies. We're Americans and your neighbors too. Most of us on the left really don't like the Clintons, or support unfettered immigration, or support Antifa and their actions, or even full-fledged Socialism, just as most people on the right don't support Fascists, Neo Nazis, White Supremacy and Antisemitism. But if Trump keeps on flapping his rotten gums, nothing will change.


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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:36 pm
by Nightshade
So...we continue with the "ORANGE MAN BAD" narrative. Everything in the universe will be Trump's fault unless it benefits democrats.

:roll:


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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:22 pm
by Top Gun
Tucker Carlson can eat an entire barrel of dicks.

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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:35 pm
by vision
woodchip wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:59 amPerhaps people on both sides will now start toning down the hate rhetoric.
I mean, that's what Obama tried. You remember how he was treated? Don't you remember just two years ago the people who didn't vote for Trump said they would be positive and try to work with him? Because I remember. And I also see the president shitting on anyone who isn't his base, which is just 1/3rd the population. You know what would have helped? Passing bi-partisan regulation like DACA last year which has overwhelming public support. Also, passing net-neutrality protections which has near universal support. It's not hard to heal the country, you just have to make compromises. The Democrats compromised the ★■◆● out of everything during Obama's term and that's how we got that turd of a bill called the Affordable Care Act and no 9th Supreme Court Justice for a year. COMPROMISE. I would like to see the Republican Party and President Trump reach out instead of vilifying everyone. Don't you think that's a good first step?

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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:16 pm
by Top Gun
Woody's old icon sure looked a hell of a lot like "compromise," didn't it?

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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:57 pm
by Tunnelcat
Nightshade wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:36 pm So...we continue with the "ORANGE MAN BAD" narrative. Everything in the universe will be Trump's fault unless it benefits democrats.

:roll:

That's because the "Orange Man IS Bad". In fact, he's the most vile, putrid and corrupt president we've ever had and his base is quickly picking up his bad habits and running with them. Colbert's joke was spot on. The bomber WAS a crazy Trumptard. Lefties are NOT to blame for this one Tucker Carlson. Wake up and smell the turd blossom that is Trump and quit looking like you enjoy it.

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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:08 pm
by Top Gun
Carlson has his nose so far up Trump's ass he can smell the Big Macs he scarfed down the previous night.

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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:23 pm
by Tunnelcat
Don't you mean "cheeseburgers"? Oh, and another little tidbit I didn't know. Trump has a red button on the Resolute Desk that he pushes just to call a butler to bring him a Diet Coke. Like drinking a diet Coke is going to mitigate the calories and fat from all those cheeseburgers he eats in bed. :lol:

http://time.com/4758059/donald-trump-co ... ar-button/

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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:33 am
by Ferno
Tunnelcat wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:57 pm
Nightshade wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:36 pm So...we continue with the "ORANGE MAN BAD" narrative. Everything in the universe will be Trump's fault unless it benefits democrats.

:roll:

That's because the "Orange Man IS Bad". In fact, he's the most vile, putrid and corrupt president we've ever had and his base is quickly picking up his bad habits and running with them. Colbert's joke was spot on. The bomber WAS a crazy Trumptard. Lefties are NOT to blame for this one Tucker Carlson. Wake up and smell the turd blossom that is Trump and quit looking like you enjoy it.

uh, yeah.. I had to stop that video when he said 'as a first grader, I didn't like having views shoved down my throat'.

Like any six year old would hold the necessary cognitive thinking for that sort of critical thought.

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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:20 am
by woodchip
vision wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:35 pm
woodchip wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:59 amPerhaps people on both sides will now start toning down the hate rhetoric.
I mean, that's what Obama tried. You remember how he was treated? Don't you remember just two years ago the people who didn't vote for Trump said they would be positive and try to work with him? Because I remember. And I also see the president shitting on anyone who isn't his base, which is just 1/3rd the population. You know what would have helped? Passing bi-partisan regulation like DACA last year which has overwhelming public support. Also, passing net-neutrality protections which has near universal support. It's not hard to heal the country, you just have to make compromises. The Democrats compromised the ★■◆● out of everything during Obama's term and that's how we got that turd of a bill called the Affordable Care Act and no 9th Supreme Court Justice for a year. COMPROMISE. I would like to see the Republican Party and President Trump reach out instead of vilifying everyone. Don't you think that's a good first step?
Funny how I don't remember anyone of importance saying they would work with Trump. In fact the first day of his inauguration the leftist antifa ran amok in protest and the newsies ran derogatory stories almost nonstop. Should I dig up some the the out right lies they got caught spewing? As to DACA it was part of the Boarder Wall bill and the Dems helped defeat the bill so where was the bipartisan support again?

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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:24 am
by woodchip
Tunnelcat wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:23 pm Don't you mean "cheeseburgers"? Oh, and another little tidbit I didn't know. Trump has a red button on the Resolute Desk that he pushes just to call a butler to bring him a Diet Coke. Like drinking a diet Coke is going to mitigate the calories and fat from all those cheeseburgers he eats in bed. :lol:

http://time.com/4758059/donald-trump-co ... ar-button/

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And Obama had to sneak off to puff on his ciggies so Michelle wouldn't catch him. So again, rhetoric like yours will only exacerbate the divide.

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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:31 am
by woodchip
Vander wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:23 pm
woodchip wrote:Perhaps people on both sides will now start toning down the hate rhetoric.
Perhaps.
Also woodchip wrote:And a Trump hater to boot. So is he a liberal nazis or a nazis liberal
Perhaps not.
I asked a legitimate question. The shooter was a Trump hater and as such certainly seems conflicted in his ideologies. Also do not forget the liberal Dems have voiced their disdain of the Jewish people so they are not blameless here.

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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:32 am
by woodchip
Top Gun wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:16 pm Woody's old icon sure looked a hell of a lot like "compromise," didn't it?
And what do you see in that icon?

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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:55 am
by Vander
woodchip wrote:I asked a legitimate question.
What was legitimate about it? That he's supposed to be a liberal because he distrusts Trump?
The shooter was a Trump hater and as such certainly seems conflicted in his ideologies.
He didn't seem conflicted at all. He projected his anti-semitism onto the MAGA brand which has been positioned to accept rather than deny such projection, and found Trump to be a poser in this regard. This guy didn't buy the marketing. He didn't want a fake anti-semite, he wanted the real thing.
Also do not forget the liberal Dems have voiced their disdain of the Jewish people so they are not blameless here.
There's no both sides equivalence here. Anti-semitism has always been a foundational component of hard right mythology. From straight up neo-Nazis, to communism being a jewish conspiracy. None of this is to say the right as a whole are all anti-semetic. Nor is it to say there are no anti-semites on the left. Just that there is no equivalence. Your best argument will be that the BDS movement can be seen as anti-Isreal, but that is borne out of Palestinian treatment rather than anti-semetism.

In the specific example of Robert Bowers, it isn't the left making ominous claims of a Soros funded immigrant caravan. It's the President. It's members of Congress. It's right wing media. It's all done to elevate a few thousand poor migrants into an existential crisis. It's done to activate people. And it looks like Robert Bowers was activated.

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And I should say that, yes, Democrats are using rhetoric that paints this administration and the current congress as an existential crisis. It literally is! Healthcare is an existential issue. Climate change is an existential issue. The complete collapse of democratic norms is an existential issue.

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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:13 pm
by vision
woodchip wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:20 amFunny how I don't remember anyone of importance saying they would work with Trump.
Democrats are on record making supportive statements. I remember distinctly all the positivity in the face of a fiasco of an election. In fact, there wasn't any real resistance until Trump burned bi-partisan legislation more than once. At this point I say ★■◆● him. Standing up for yourself and others (including conservatives) isn't being uncivil. The president is the biggest piece of ★■◆● of a person I can imagine and there are dozens of Republicans more than qualified to do the job. Keep in mind I am not a Democrat, I'm a former Republican recently turned unaffiliated.

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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:20 pm
by Top Gun
woodchip wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:32 am And what do you see in that icon?
An idiot who doesn't know economic systems from a hole in the ground?

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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:44 pm
by Tunnelcat
woodchip wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:24 am And Obama had to sneak off to puff on his ciggies so Michelle wouldn't catch him. So again, rhetoric like yours will only exacerbate the divide.
That button is real. Look it up. It's all over the web and it's not a meme. As for Obama's ciggies, at least Michelle slept in the same bed as her husband. Trump and Melania sleep in separate bedrooms. I wonder why? Could it be because Trump got caught over and over with his womanizing BS and she's now punishing him by withholding sex and bed cuddles? Could be. JFK was a notorious womanizer and he got the cold shoulder at bedtime from Jackie too. :wink:

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-melania ... oms-776693
woodchip wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:32 am
Top Gun wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:16 pm Woody's old icon sure looked a hell of a lot like "compromise," didn't it?
And what do you see in that icon?
This, Obama made up as some kind of Socialist Joker. Kind of insulting don't you think? Or why else would you have used it? I certainly wasn't to be friendly. Your Hillary avatar was just as demeaning and foul and even I thought it was distasteful and crude. Just remember, I don't like her either.

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You want to hate Obama, that's fine. You have that freedom and right. But rubbing it in everyone's face every time you made a post was flat out insulting and baiting just to get a rise, with no intention of compromise. You'll notice that none of the lefties and moderates here uses such an divisive image of Trump for their avatar. The only person who did such a thing was callmeslick, who was doing it just to bait you.

Re: This...

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:06 am
by Burlyman
I should use a monkey avatar to poke at evolutionists. :)

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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:28 pm
by Tunnelcat
Go ahead. Everyone looking at your avatar would eventually begin to think you look like a monkey. I began to wonder after a bit if CUDA actually looked like Clint Eastwood. Personally, I don't care if everyone thinks I look like a cat. :mrgreen:

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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:37 pm
by Tunnelcat
News flash. Trump has previously defied calls to appoint an envoy to oversee anti-Semitism around the world, a law that George W. Bush signed into law.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 06226.html

Congress got involved in September and voted to force the issue and there STILL wasn't an envoy appointed as of this weekend. But guess what's happening now? Pompeo indicates that he's now working on it. Kind of late to the party isn't it? :roll:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/congress- ... nvoy-post/

Re: This...

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:20 pm
by Ferno
And now we have this.



Only a bigoted, xenophobic troglodyte would support or embrace this.

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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:57 am
by Burlyman
Are you saying woodchip looks like Obama? :lol:

I'm exempt from being compared to a monkey because I'm black. :P Almost everyone looking at a monkey avatar thinks of himself as looking like a monkey. People used to say Dubya looks like a monkey. Maybe I should use him. :evil:

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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:59 am
by TheWhat
Burlyman wrote: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:57 amPeople used to say Dubya looks like a monkey. Maybe I should use him. :evil:
Isn’t it strange that almost everyone in the United States and the rest of the world long for the days of George? That’s how far out we are. Lol

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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:18 pm
by Burlyman
Yeah :( The Orange Man makes Dubya look like a genius.

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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:44 pm
by Top Gun
Yeah man I totally long for the days of unfunded, ill-advised, illegal wars that left a hundred thousand civilians dead.

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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:00 am
by Vander
I always shake my head when I see the Bush nostalgia take. ★■◆● that guy.

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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:00 pm
by Top Gun
There was a time when I legitimately supported him, but I was a dumbfuck teenager. Thankfully I grew up.

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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:22 pm
by vision
Top Gun wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:00 pm There was a time when I legitimately supported him, but I was a dumbfuck teenager. Thankfully I grew up.
I supported him too, but I was a grown-ass man. It wasn't until the Iraq invasion that I regretted voting for Bush.

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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:07 pm
by Krom
Try to imagine how much better off we would be if Bush hadn't started two endless and impossible wars that also contributed to running the global economy into the ground. Figuring out the entire extent of how much he fucked up might take us decades to fully understand.

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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:21 pm
by Vander
Honestly, at this point I think I prefer Trump. He hasn't started a war, yet. He's doing most of the same ★■◆● Republicans always do, just more aggressively. And he's gotten the fascists to identify themselves with the stupid red hats. With Bush you always had to give people the benefit of the doubt.

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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:48 pm
by vision
Vander wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:21 pmHonestly, at this point I think I prefer Trump. He hasn't started a war, yet.
I think we are in a full-blown information war between two political parties. Sure, we aren't bombing any new poor people in another country, but the damage being done here might take more than a generation to fix, if at all fixable. We literally have a president vilifying millions of citizens he's sworn to protect. I don't know how you weigh this against a body count, but it means something.

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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:36 pm
by Tunnelcat
And Republicans wonder why the Dems won't roll over, abdicate all hope and join with Trump for the betterment of the country. Ol' Mr. Two-face Trump just can't keep his hateful pie-hole shut for 2 minutes, let alone the rest of his miserable presidency.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-call ... -the-past/