So long \"AutoPatcher\"

For system help, all hardware / software topics NOTE: use Coders Corner for all coders topics.

Moderators: Krom, Grendel

Post Reply
User avatar
Duper
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 9214
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2001 3:01 am
Location: Beaverton, Oregon USA

So long \"AutoPatcher\"

Post by Duper »

User avatar
Top Wop
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 5104
Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2000 3:01 am
Location: Far from you.
Contact:

Post by Top Wop »

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot, autopatcher actually HELPED and PROMOTED M$ by making the fixes easier to obtain and apply.

Its almost like MS doesn't want to have a positive image. Its like they have a public relations department whose objective is to make them look bad instead of good, like when they sued that 17-year old a few years back because they thought people wouldn't be able to tell the difference between Microsoft and Mike Rowe Soft. :roll:

I am continually astounded, and I am continually compelled to put up with some of the sh!tness of Linux and move all of my Windows games to that OS under Wine, just so I can say I have nothing to do with Micro$uck.
User avatar
Krom
DBB Database Master
DBB Database Master
Posts: 16064
Joined: Sun Nov 29, 1998 3:01 am
Location: Camping the energy center. BTW, did you know you can have up to 100 characters in this location box?
Contact:

Post by Krom »

Alternate program that can still get most of the job done and save you a lot of time and effort next time you format: http://www.ryanvm.net/msfn/
User avatar
Duper
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 9214
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2001 3:01 am
Location: Beaverton, Oregon USA

Post by Duper »

Thanks Krom!

And Top, be forewarned. Wine doesn't run all windows games. hehe.. ironically, it runs windows programs only a little better than Vista does. ...but for different reasons I imagine. There are others here that can answer that better than I.
It's kinda a craps shoot as to what will run. Hit the forums before you make that leap and see what runs well or at all under Wine.
User avatar
roid
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 9990
Joined: Sun Dec 09, 2001 3:01 am
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Contact:

Post by roid »

we can still use things like http://www.windizupdate.com/ instead of windowsupdate though.
User avatar
Top Wop
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 5104
Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2000 3:01 am
Location: Far from you.
Contact:

Re:

Post by Top Wop »

Duper wrote:And Top, be forewarned. Wine doesn't run all windows games.
I know that. I was illustrating a point that I would make some sacrifices. What, you think im a dummy?

:)
User avatar
Duper
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 9214
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2001 3:01 am
Location: Beaverton, Oregon USA

Re:

Post by Duper »

Top Wop wrote:
Duper wrote:And Top, be forewarned. Wine doesn't run all windows games.
I know that. I was illustrating a point that I would make some sacrifices. What, you think im a dummy?

:)
oh um.. drunk? ;)


that's what I get for posting from work :P
User avatar
Sirius
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 5616
Joined: Fri May 28, 1999 2:01 am
Location: Bellevue, WA
Contact:

Post by Sirius »

MS probably should consider facilitating something like that themselves if they're that worried about third-party involvement with the patching process.
User avatar
Strife
DBB Ace
DBB Ace
Posts: 144
Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:45 am
Location: Connecticut

Post by Strife »

I am so tempted to switch to Linux... You guys think rainbow 6 vegas would work in it? :P
User avatar
Duper
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 9214
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2001 3:01 am
Location: Beaverton, Oregon USA

Re:

Post by Duper »

Sirius wrote:MS probably should consider facilitating something like that themselves if they're that worried about third-party involvement with the patching process.
with their "Genuine MS Assurance" program that reloads everytime you update from their site, it's little wonder they're so persnickety. I'm sure they'll be the same way even after they discontinue supporting update downloads. :roll:


And Strife.. yes it will, but I think I remember reading somewhere that it involves alchemy.
User avatar
Top Wop
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 5104
Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2000 3:01 am
Location: Far from you.
Contact:

Re:

Post by Top Wop »

Duper wrote:with their "Genuine MS Assurance" program...
You mean Windows Genuine Advantage.

Posting from work again eh? Or is it really the drink? :P
User avatar
Duper
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 9214
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2001 3:01 am
Location: Beaverton, Oregon USA

Re:

Post by Duper »

Top Wop wrote:
Duper wrote:with their "Genuine MS Assurance" program...
You mean Windows Genuine Advantage.

Posting from work again eh? Or is it really the drink? :P
lil' of both :lol:
User avatar
Sirius
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 5616
Joined: Fri May 28, 1999 2:01 am
Location: Bellevue, WA
Contact:

Post by Sirius »

I thought WGA only applied to some updates?

Edit: Besides which, WGA could be implemented as a check before installation, instead of being necessary for the download - it isn't like it's impossible to get the files through other means anyway.
User avatar
Aus-RED-5
DBB Friend
DBB Friend
Posts: 1604
Joined: Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:27 am
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Contact:

Re:

Post by Aus-RED-5 »

Sirius wrote:I thought WGA only applied to some updates?
Nope... anytime you do a fresh install and then goto the MS site for updates. It will install the WGA first before you can update.
Because of this, WinXP needs to be activated so that the WGA checks to make sure you have a genuine copy, before updates.

With AutoPatcher, you could get around this if you didn't have a genuine copy.

So, it's no surprise they finally got told to take it down.
User avatar
fliptw
DBB DemiGod
DBB DemiGod
Posts: 6458
Joined: Sat Oct 24, 1998 2:01 am
Location: Calgary Alberta Canada

Post by fliptw »

is WGA still an optional download from WU?
User avatar
Testiculese
DBB Material Defender
DBB Material Defender
Posts: 4688
Joined: Sun Nov 11, 2001 3:01 am

Post by Testiculese »

I don't use the WGA, There's an alternate version that downloads a standard exe and does some checks locally, and gives you a code you can copy/paste into WU. Check at the bottom of any page that said Authentication Required.
User avatar
DCrazy
DBB Alumni
DBB Alumni
Posts: 8826
Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2000 3:01 am
Location: Seattle

Re:

Post by DCrazy »

fliptw wrote:is WGA still an optional download from WU?
If it is, they do a damn good job of hiding it. I love how after Windows decides to download an update, you can't cancel that specific update's installation. *miffed*
User avatar
Top Wop
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 5104
Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2000 3:01 am
Location: Far from you.
Contact:

Post by Top Wop »

WGA became compulsory a long time ago. I thought you guys knew. :?:
Post Reply