Flat earthers, explain this

[Top Gun]

Do your own research. I already told you enough so you should know where to start.

Oh no you don't. You're the one making outrageous claims, so the burden of proof is on you. I want direct links to models that purport to explain observable natural phenomena. Put up or shut up.

[Isaac]

Do your own research. I already told you enough so you should know where to start.

Oh no you don't. You're the one making outrageous claims, so the burden of proof is on you. I want direct links to models that purport to explain observable natural phenomena. Put up or shut up.

You're clearly not up to par with flat earth research: you go outside, look around and say "it looks flat". Models? Math? What for?

No, I said their arguments for flat earth, some of them don't make sense,

Whaaaat?? Are you even a flat earther? If you don't agree with your own flatties you might be globalist and not a flat eather.

[TigerRaptor]

Now I'm curious about something, Neo. Do you believe in the electric universe too?

[Neo]

Do your own research. I already told you enough so you should know where to start.

Oh no you don't. You're the one making outrageous claims, so the burden of proof is on you. I want direct links to models that purport to explain observable natural phenomena. Put up or shut up.

People always act like that but that's not true. If you really want to know about flat earth you'll do what everyone else did. I don't care about proving it to you.

No, I said their arguments for flat earth, some of them don't make sense,

Whaaaat?? Are you even a flat earther? If you don't agree with your own flatties you might be globalist and not a flat eather.

lol... Globe doesn't make enough sense, and I think you need to look up the word globalist. lol

I agree with most of what they say. Like I said we need scientists to figure out what's going on, ones who don't care so much about their bank accounts.

Now I'm curious about something, Neo. Do you believe in the electric universe too?

Doesn't electric universe talk about a vast universe?

[Isaac]

No, I said their arguments for flat earth, some of them don't make sense,

Whaaaat?? Are you even a flat earther? If you don't agree with your own flatties you might be globalist and not a flat eather.

lol... Globe doesn't make enough sense,

A globe earth wouldn't make sense if you believe "Newton's law of universal gravitation" is also wrong. I assume you believe it's wrong (no judgement if you believe it's wrong). If gravity comes from a single direction (down) rather than bodies of mass, then a globe wouldn't make sense.

[TigerRaptor]

Doesn't electric universe talk about a vast universe?

It aligns remarkably well with the kinds of odd things you often mention.

[Top Gun]

People always act like that but that's not true. If you really want to know about flat earth you'll do what everyone else did. I don't care about proving it to you.

Saying this is a tacit admission that you have nothing. If you actually had something, and you wanted other people to believe in it, you'd happily share it.

[Neo]

People always act like that but that's not true. If you really want to know about flat earth you'll do what everyone else did. I don't care about proving it to you.

Saying this is a tacit admission that you have nothing. If you actually had something, and you wanted other people to believe in it, you'd happily share it.

I know about it, I just don't care to share my research with you

Doesn't electric universe talk about a vast universe?

It aligns remarkably well with the kinds of odd things you often mention.

Last time I researched that, they were talking about a NASA/Einstein-type universe.

A globe earth wouldn't make sense if you believe "Newton's law of universal gravitation" is also wrong. I assume you believe it's wrong (no judgement if you believe it's wrong). If gravity comes from a single direction (down) rather than bodies of mass, then a globe wouldn't make sense.

Yes, I believe gravity only comes from a single direction rather than bodies of mass. Even with Newton's universal gravitation, it still doesn't make sense. That's what I was trying to tell you but you dismissed it as "not an argument."

[Top Gun]

I know about it, I just don't care to share my research with you

If you won't share it when directly asked, then you don't have it and you're a fraud.

[Isaac]

A globe earth wouldn't make sense if you believe "Newton's law of universal gravitation" is also wrong. I assume you believe it's wrong (no judgement if you believe it's wrong). If gravity comes from a single direction (down) rather than bodies of mass, then a globe wouldn't make sense.

Yes, I believe gravity only comes from a single direction rather than bodies of mass. Even with Newton's universal gravitation, it still doesn't make sense. That's what I was trying to tell you but you dismissed it as "not an argument."

At least it's easier to understand you. If Newton's law of Universal Gravitation is not applied gravity from a single direction becomes more plausible. But this does raise questions, like how does orbiting work if not F = G((m1*m2)/r^2)? If newton's law applies to some objects it must apply to all, unless we go with flat moon were everything is glued to the space dome and flat earth is rotating and space is a round dome.

[Neo]

If you won't share it when directly asked, then you don't have it and you're a fraud.

That's a lie. Just try to search for things a lot without being hindered by the new search algorithms. I don't know if the new search algorithms make it impossible. If they do then at least it's not something you have to worry about. I found out about flat earth before the search algorithms were changed.

Yes, I believe gravity only comes from a single direction rather than bodies of mass. Even with Newton's universal gravitation, it still doesn't make sense. That's what I was trying to tell you but you dismissed it as "not an argument."

At least it's easier to understand you. If Newton's law of Universal Gravitation is not applied gravity from a single direction becomes more plausible. But this does raise questions, like how does orbiting work if not F = G((m1*m2)/r^2)? If newton's law applies to some objects it must apply to all, unless we go with flat moon were everything is glued to the space dome and flat earth is rotating and space is a round dome.

There's no such thing as an orbit, only atomic orbitals, which are also not an orbit. No flat moon, no rotating earth, no NASA type of outer space. Just stars attached to the firmament with the sun and moon in the upper atmosphere.

[TigerRaptor]

What if the Earth isn’t a planet at all but a flat, enclosed system like a snow globe sealed by design? Maybe we’re prisoners in a world built to deceive us, watched over by a hidden authority, something far beyond governments, a real-life Men in Black operation that’s been rewriting reality for generations. The sky, the stars, and the NASA space program—they're all just pieces of the illusion. But the cracks are starting to show. Whispers of the truth are spreading. And like Neo in The Matrix, some of us are beginning to see the cage for what it is. The question is how far does the lie go, and will they silence us before we find a way out?

[Isaac]

There's no such thing as an orbit, ...

Uh, but flatties do believe in Jupiter and its moons. You disagree with the other flatties that Jupiter has moons that orbit it, which is observable with a telescope?

[vision]

You disagree with the other flatties that Jupiter has moons that orbit it, which is observable with a telescope?

I'm going to jump in on this one and say that any celestial body not the sun or moon is part of the firmament. I don't research this stuff but in my imagination the firmament is like an impenetrable substrate and celestial bodies are like bubbles in syrup. They can move about in the substrate, however, the depth of the substrate can't be known but is perhaps like a gradient that extends to the edge of reality. It's possible the perceived trillions of miles between stars and galaxies are part of a distortion we can't measure. The same principal of how I see the edges of the Earth and ground below us, as a gradient to the edge of reality that can't be measured or traversed in a meaningful way. So sure, Jupiter could have moons that orbit it but all of that is inside a substrate we can't enter or measure.

Just to be clear I don't believe this, but I think it's fun to imagine.

[Tunnelcat]

Neo, I'm mean to anyone who's religion wants me dead. Wouldn't you?

[TigerRaptor]

Neo, I'm mean to anyone who's religion wants me dead. Wouldn't you?

He's just an angry little mouse, lashing out at the world and everything in it. Remember his whole nonsense about Suncho being dead? Well, he is very much alive.

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[Top Gun]

That's a lie. Just try to search for things a lot without being hindered by the new search algorithms. I don't know if the new search algorithms make it impossible. If they do then at least it's not something you have to worry about. I found out about flat earth before the search algorithms were changed.

This is hilarious. I gave you the simplest, most softball request for anything backing up what you're claiming, even just a basic link to a website, anything at all to latch on to and spur discussion...and you won't do it. Because you can't do it. You have nothing. You are completely intellectually bankrupt. Kind of amazing really.

[Neo]

This is hilarious. I gave you the simplest, most softball request for anything backing up what you're claiming, even just a basic link to a website, anything at all to latch on to and spur discussion...and you won't do it. Because you can't do it. You have nothing. You are completely intellectually bankrupt. Kind of amazing really.

Okay I was going to send you a u-tube playlist because of all of your complaints but since you called me completely intellectually bankrupt, I won't have anything to do with you as usual.

What if the Earth isn’t a planet at all but a flat, enclosed system like a snow globe sealed by design? Maybe we’re prisoners in a world built to deceive us, watched over by a hidden authority, something far beyond governments, a real-life Men in Black operation that’s been rewriting reality for generations. The sky, the stars, and the NASA space program—they're all just pieces of the illusion. But the cracks are starting to show. Whispers of the truth are spreading. And like Neo in The Matrix, some of us are beginning to see the cage for what it is. The question is how far does the lie go, and will they silence us before we find a way out?

I know you're asking a general question, but Earth wasn't meant to be a prison. God created the earth and man was immortal at first so he wouldn't necessarily have to leave. The Bible is still inspired by the Holy Spirit, so it's not part of the conspiracy.

Uh, but flatties do believe in Jupiter and its moons. You disagree with the other flatties that Jupiter has moons that orbit it, which is observable with a telescope?

I already answered this question.

I almost forgot about Tunnelcat. God doesn't want you dead. Hell was made for the devil and his angels. The thing you call "me" is not you. You must be born again to enter the kingdom of heaven!

[Isaac]

Uh, but flatties do believe in Jupiter and its moons. You disagree with the other flatties that Jupiter has moons that orbit it, which is observable with a telescope?

I already answered this question.

It was a different question. Can you explain Jupiter's moons not our moon

[Top Gun]

Okay I was going to send you a u-tube playlist because of all of your complaints but since you called me completely intellectually bankrupt, I won't have anything to do with you as usual.

Sure, Jan.

[TigerRaptor]

Neo thinks that me poking fun at his nonsense is the same as genuinely asking a question.

[Neo]

Neo thinks that me poking fun at his nonsense is the same as genuinely asking a question.

No, I know you’re a troll who won’t leave me alone.

He's just an angry little mouse, lashing out at the world and everything in it. Remember his whole nonsense about Suncho being dead? Well, he is very much alive.

I’m a lion cub, not a mouse. Suncho is dead to me, and twice dead to God.

Isaac, I’m not going to explain anything to you. If you need to know why, see Tiger’s post.

Top Gun, I’m glad you’re able to laugh instead of posting the usual negativity that comes from these message boards.

[TigerRaptor]

Ok Neo, ok.

Whatever makes you happy little guy.

[Neo]

Don’t call me little.

[Isaac]

Isaac, I’m not going to explain anything to you. If you need to know why, see Tiger’s post.

You're just being dishonest. You're acting like playing coy and not answering like a man, directly, is still honest, but it's not. Stop being a liar and answer a question the right way. You say you're a christian, then I recommend acting like one. Yes, skirting or evading a question is dishonest of you. So I ask you again: Can you explain Jupiter's moons orbiting behavior? If you avoid this question, you must stop saying you read the bible or believe anything it says because, if you avoid truth again, you don't believe in anything it says.

[Neo]

Okay, I’m going to answer it again, since you are claiming that I’m being dishonest, all while you troll me about the “flat moon.” Then people will call me crazy again. I have to go somewhere; look for a reply soon.

There's no such thing as a planet. I told you about that already in this thread. "Jupiter" and its "moons" are holograms. The evil spirits made the first ones.

Can we let this thread die now?

[Isaac]

Okay, I’m going to answer it again, since you are claiming that I’m being dishonest, all while you troll me about the “flat moon.” Then people will call me crazy again. I have to go somewhere; look for a reply soon.

There's no such thing as a planet. I told you about that already in this thread. "Jupiter" and its "moons" are holograms. The evil spirits made the first ones.

Can we let this thread die now?

Thank you and I do not remember you saying this before. But why does it have to be evil? Jupiter has little to no effect with anything on earth, I believe.

[Krom]

What's a hologram and how has it been existing in the sky since the beginning of history? Why doesn't it ever break down? Who keeps it working? What does it run on? Why aren't there any similar holograms on the ground? Why don't jet planes crash into them?

What other completely wrong things do you believe in? Republicans are fiscally responsible? Vaccines cause autism? Pizzagate?

If you believe something as stupid as flat earth, you are definitely an easy mark for a whole bunch of other completely insane/dangerous bull★■◆●.

[Isaac]

The fact that Krom is surprised by this is proof you've never told us this part of the flat lore.

What's a hologram and how has it been existing in the sky since the beginning of history? Why doesn't it ever break down? Who keeps it working?

He already said evil spirits. They have hobbies and intergalactic decorations is one of them. That and making you stub your toe.

What does it run on?

What are these questions? They run of either spirit or evil related things. These are questions he clearly answered.

Why aren't there any similar holograms on the ground?
Why don't jet planes crash into them?

Are you kidding? Until now, the only holograms we knew of were on the ground. And planes have never crashed into an aurora borealis. Checkmate, globe earther.

What other completely wrong things do you believe in? Republicans are fiscally responsible? Vaccines cause autism? Pizzagate?

Woah woah woah. If you're gonna start attacking him, he'll come back with a "I believe in a forum that doesn't 1040 after 5 people visit at the same time", I wouldn't say that. But he might.

If you believe something as stupid as flat earth, you are definitely an easy mark for a whole bunch of other completely insane/dangerous bull★■◆●.

I like how you're concluding with the flat earth belief as the highlight and not the Jupiter is part of an evil spirit hologram.

[TigerRaptor]

Care to elaborate on how a hologram can create extreme force from such massive objects in space?

[Neo]

Tiger, you don't understand the logic, why should I elaborate further? Unless you're making ridiculous attempt at asking a rhetorical question.

Now I know why bubba called Isaac names. Now Isaac is pretending to reply like me.

What's a hologram and how has it been existing in the sky since the beginning of history? Why doesn't it ever break down? Who keeps it working? What does it run on? Why aren't there any similar holograms on the ground? Why don't jet planes crash into them?

What other completely wrong things do you believe in? Republicans are fiscally responsible? Vaccines cause autism? Pizzagate?

If you believe something as stupid as flat earth, you are definitely an easy mark for a whole bunch of other completely insane/dangerous bull★■◆●.

This is why I never liked Krom. He's always a rude troll masquerading as a beloved elite player.

[TigerRaptor]

It's a straightforward question. Guess you can't explain how a hologram can create extreme forces.

Here's a super cereal question since everyone here is a troll, who is who?

[Isaac]

Care to elaborate on how a hologram can create extreme force from such massive objects in space?

HE ALREADY SAID "evil spirits"!!!!! Why must he elaborate?

It's a straightforward question. Guess you can't explain how a hologram can create extreme forces.

He already said in this thread that bodies of mass do not produce force.

A globe earth wouldn't make sense if you believe "Newton's law of universal gravitation" is also wrong. I assume you believe it's wrong (no judgement if you believe it's wrong). If gravity comes from a single direction (down) rather than bodies of mass, then a globe wouldn't make sense.

Yes, I believe gravity only comes from a single direction rather than bodies of mass. Even with Newton's universal gravitation, it still doesn't make sense. That's what I was trying to tell you but you dismissed it as "not an argument."

[TigerRaptor]

Because I like Neo; he's my little buddy friend, not yours.

[Isaac]

That's not even what I'm addressing. I'm point out that he answered your questions already.

[TigerRaptor]

Because I just want Neo to like me; he already hurt Krom's feelings by saying mean words to him.

[vision]

Care to elaborate on how a hologram can create extreme force from such massive objects in space?

Those forces are illusions and part of the hologram. Just because you can observe it and make predictions doesn't mean it's real and you can go there. These "objects" are part of the firmament. (I think that's how it would be explained.)

[Isaac]

Because I just want Neo to like me; he already hurt Krom's feelings by saying mean words to him.

We'd have to understand Neo before he could hurt our feelings. He's like a higher life form trying to communicate and all we can do is speculate. Is it a coincidence his name also spells Zeno if you copy the N and turn it 90deg. All the puzzle pieces are falling together.

[Neo]

Don't give me that picture or I'll take it and put all your names on it, one under each troll.

Well, looks like I can leave this thread. Isaac is taking over to answer people's questions and talk about the flat moon conspiracy. Prepare to be well-informed.

By the way, I wasn't trying to hurt Krom, I'm just stating the fact that I stated. I looked up his name too and it's very fitting

[Isaac]

Well, looks like I can leave this thread. Isaac is taking over to answer people's questions and talk about the flat moon conspiracy. Prepare to be well-informed.

Am I not answering it the way you would, only much more timely?