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Þe Old English Letter Þorn!

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:13 pm
by Dakatsu
I þink it would be pretty sweet if English re-adopted þe letter Þþ, called \"thorn\". It used to stand for any place where þere currently is a \"th\", and it was used until þe typewriter came along. Currently þe Icelandic Language uses it, and I þink þat English would be so much cooler wiþ þis old, but still useful letter :D

(Trivia: Wiþ þe introduction of þe typewriter þe letter þorn was replaced with a Y, hence þe phrase \"Ye Olde\". It wasn't actually pronounced like þat, but instead was a version of \"Þe Olde\".)

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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:40 pm
by Sirius
I thought it applied to the voiced \"th\" only, not the unvoiced? Could be wrong though...

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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:15 pm
by Dakatsu
Sirius wrote:I thought it applied to the voiced "th" only, not the unvoiced? Could be wrong though...
Probably, but we don't differentiate þat any more (in spelling), so it would be a huge spelling reform to see which words would need a Ðð, and which a Þþ for common people þat can't tell. As Þþ outlasted Ðð by a long time, I like Þþ better.

Þe only exception would be in compound words, "like Priesthood".

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:50 pm
by Neo
Oh, great. Now English is going to be even more complicated. :P

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:01 pm
by Spidey
Yea, like I want to buy a bunch of new keyboards, and a cell phone.

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:15 pm
by Avder
Eh, may as well just start spelling phonetically. I studied Japanese for a semester. One good thing about that language is if you hear something you know how to write it, at least in kana.

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:43 pm
by Burlyman
Japanese 1

Spanish 1

English 0

Not looking good so far. :P

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:37 am
by Sirius
Also, úëþ.

(Anyone remember that?)

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:39 am
by roid
i came into this thread expecting Icelandic porn.

But an etymology is fine too

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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:42 am
by Dakatsu
Avder wrote:Eh, may as well just start spelling phonetically. I studied Japanese for a semester. One good thing about that language is if you hear something you know how to write it, at least in kana.
Þe only problem wiþ that is þat you would have to pretty well re-write þe whole language. ALL literature would have to be re-published.

...and I'm typing þis using a standard keyboard. It's called US International Keyboard in your language settings. Just hold down Alt-Gr and press þe T key!

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...but cellphones would be a problem.

(Personally, I'd just like þe option to use either þe "TH" spellings or þe letter þorn in writing. Not for a whole language reform þat everyone must follow.)
úëþ
¿Qué?

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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:58 pm
by Avder
Dakatsu wrote:
Avder wrote:Eh, may as well just start spelling phonetically. I studied Japanese for a semester. One good thing about that language is if you hear something you know how to write it, at least in kana.
The only problem with that is that you would have to pretty well re-write the whole language. ALL literature would have to be re-published.
Fixed your post.

Now, if you want to wait 10, 15 years until everyone has a star trek style pad, and printed books become obsolete, it will be easy to do then as it will likely be easy at that time to just write an algorithm to go through and change whatever words need to be changed.

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:59 pm
by Neo
I might use the sideways baby bib every now and then just to be cool. :P

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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:37 pm
by Dakatsu
Neo wrote:I might use the sideways baby bib every now and then just to be cool. :P
:D

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:08 am
by Neo
hey, that's what it's always reminded me of. :) I'm thinking about starting another thread about REALLY really archaic English and post links to some examples just to show how hard it is to read now.

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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:13 am
by Jeff250
Sirius wrote:Also, úëþ.

(Anyone remember that?)
I think so... with Win9x, if you pasted that into Notepad and saved it as a .com executable and ran it, wouldn't it hard lock the system? Of course, Win9x never even pretended to have security, although it wasn't a multi-user OS either, so I suppose it doesn't really make a difference...

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:35 am
by Sirius
Yep. Did the rounds in Kali somewhere around 1998 or so. I believe this is one of the consequences of Win9x being built on DOS - you can run programs in real-mode that prevent the OS kernel from getting CPU time.

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:48 pm
by null0010
the rune thorn is angular, not round. scribed properly, it looks like this:

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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:41 am
by Dakatsu
null0010 wrote:the rune thorn is angular, not round.
The letter þorn is round, hence why letters are better :D

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:32 am
by Isaac
Ah, ubuntu's compose key has it! :) And Þe world of goo! :p Þough I would use þhis archaic character more if it didn't count as a spelling mistake. And since grammar and spelling no longer mean anything in E&C I'll start using it here regularly.

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:35 am
by Isaac
pppppþþþþþþþþþþ!

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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:49 am
by Thenior
Isaac wrote:Ah, ubuntu's compose key has it! :) And Þe world of goo! :p Þough I would use þhis archaic character more if it didn't count as a spelling mistake. And since grammar and spelling no longer mean anything in E&C I'll start using it here regularly.
I'm going to write javascript code that automatically removes your posts DBB pages I view.

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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:18 pm
by Isaac
Thenior wrote:
Isaac wrote:Ah, ubuntu's compose key has it! :) And Þe world of goo! :p Þough I would use þhis archaic character more if it didn't count as a spelling mistake. And since grammar and spelling no longer mean anything in E&C I'll start using it here regularly.
I'm going to write javascript code that automatically removes your posts DBB pages I view.
Well I'm sorry you feel that way. I'll try to be nicer.

Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:57 pm
by roid
Þufferin' Þuccotash!

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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:56 pm
by Sedwick
It kind of resembles a tongue sticking out of the mouth, which is what you have to do a little bit to make the sound.

I came up with a phonetic English spelling system a while back, I should post it...

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:02 am
by roid
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:48 am
by roid
heh

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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:14 am
by Burlyman
You bumped this to laugh at your own joke? Seriously?
Sirius wrote:Also, úëþ.

(Anyone remember that?)
In a word, no. :P

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:40 am
by roid
hey it took effort to make that

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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:24 am
by KoolBear
roid wrote:hey it took effort to make that
lmao, roid you are not a droid!