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Paper Pyro

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:01 am
by sdfgeoff
I was going through all the Descent forums, and came across this:
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(Found from the dxx-rebirth forums)

I may have to make one out of thin aluminium.

(Here are the plans)

Re: Paper Pyro

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:55 pm
by Tunnelcat
That's cool. Thanks for the plans. I might built one out of either plastic sheet and tube material, or aluminum.

Re: Paper Pyro

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:46 pm
by piggler
Hello all, i created this papercraft kinda quick, so I/ll prob be updating it regularly. I'll post the stand to hold the ship as well as some of the larger weapons. I created this ship from scratch so I hope you enjoy. Some trimming and bending is required to make the ship. good luck, I hope you like........ (Sorry about the image size before, shrank em down to a managable size)

Re: Paper Pyro

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:01 pm
by Isaac
nailed it

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Re: Paper Pyro

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:55 pm
by sdfgeoff
Looking good their piggler, and welcome to the community

I'm still drinking can's of coke to make one out of aluminium. I figure it's about 5 cans worth...
If I don't do that, then I'll make one out of wood.

Re: Paper Pyro

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:31 pm
by piggler
Thanks, I would really like to see an aluminum version, what would you use to attach all the parts?

Re: Paper Pyro

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:28 am
by sdfgeoff
I've been trying to figure that out.
Coke cans have a plastic film over them, so I figure that if I preserve this on the inside (perhaps lightly sanded), normal epoxy should be able to hold strong enough for a display model. Otherwise, aluminium will hold a bend, so many of the parts may be able to be re-arranged in GIMP, and then just bent into place.

I'll do some tests tomorrow. (What should it be: coke?)

Re: Paper Pyro

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:18 am
by Isaac
This is grammatically incorrect:
sdfgeoff wrote:I'm still drinking can's of coke...
fixed:
sdfgeoff wrote:I'm still drinking beer, mates,...

Re: Paper Pyro

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:53 pm
by Tunnelcat
sdfgeoff wrote:I've been trying to figure that out.
Coke cans have a plastic film over them, so I figure that if I preserve this on the inside (perhaps lightly sanded), normal epoxy should be able to hold strong enough for a display model. Otherwise, aluminium will hold a bend, so many of the parts may be able to be re-arranged in GIMP, and then just bent into place.

I'll do some tests tomorrow. (What should it be: coke?)
That plastic film really deters gluing on that side. The cans are a beast to get relatively flat as well. They like to keep their wrinkles. I had a whole stack of the stuff I was going to use for skinning aircraft models, but I gave up on it. Too hard to work with.

I'm thinking that wood might be a viable medium. You could carve the main body and cut out the wings, then use tube material, either plastic or aluminum, for the weapons and missiles and clear plastic sheet and plastic strip stock for the cockpit and frame.

Re: Paper Pyro

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:56 pm
by piggler
I'd try some aluminum flashing from the depot. Grab some tin snips and some metal epoxy...... might work

Re: Paper Pyro

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:15 pm
by Spidey
JFTR you can get hobby craft aluminum in a number of different thicknesses. I have some .005 right here in front of me…very useful for so many things.

Alloy 1100 thickness .005”

The brand on this roll is K&S Engineering.

Re: Paper Pyro

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:41 am
by Isaac
Bacon is also an alternative. Post using bacon with other materials: http://descentbb.net/viewtopic.php?p=313301#p313301

Re: Paper Pyro

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:57 pm
by sdfgeoff
I did some tests, like I said I would, and discovered that, out of the range of glues I tests, PVA (white glue) build up into a gusset was adequately strong.
I am somewhat surprised really!

Re: Paper Pyro

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:01 pm
by Duper
Here's wiki's record of the alloy composition:
wiki wrote:The aluminium used in United States and Canada are alloys containing 92.5% to 97% aluminium, <5.5% magnesium, <1.6% manganese, <0.15% chromium and some trace amounts of iron, silicon and copper according to MSDS from aluminium producer Alcoa.[4]

Re: Paper Pyro

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:46 am
by Tank
Are there any directions for this paper craft, or just the print out?

Re: Paper Pyro

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:22 am
by sdfgeoff
It's fairly standard. Parts are grouped together, and you just, well, glue it.

Re: Paper Pyro

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:32 pm
by Ferno
A good go-between, if you don't have the right kind of aluminum you want and you still intend to go to the hobby store, is to use some Plasticard (AKA sheet styrene). It'll give you the rigidity you are looking for with the workability of paper. And to glue the pieces together you can either use superglue, epoxy or Ambroid Proweld

Re: Paper Pyro

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:39 pm
by Spidey
I’ve always found styrene pretty tough to glue. (but, that could just be me)

Re: Paper Pyro

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:18 am
by Ferno
The Proweld I mentioned earlier is specially designed for styrene.

Re: Paper Pyro

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:56 pm
by LiveNuke
I'm looking forward to get started on this! I've never done this before, so I did these tonight as a "test", using thin paper too:

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Re: Paper Pyro

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:00 pm
by LiveNuke
just a few questions :)

how long would you say that it took you?

how did you make this? did you use pepakura? how difficult is it to do that?