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All are swept aside in pursuit of the progressive agenda.
George Orwell’s 1949 dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four is no longer fiction. We are living it right now.

Google techies planned to massage Internet searches to emphasize correct thinking. A member of the so-called deep state, in an anonymous op-ed, brags that its “resistance” is undermining an elected president. The FBI, CIA, DOJ, and NSC were all weaponized in 2016 to ensure that the proper president would be elected — the choice adjudicated by properly progressive ideology. Wearing a wire is now redefined as simply flipping on an iPhone and recording your boss, boy- or girlfriend, or co-workers.

But never has the reality that we are living in a surreal age been clearer than during the strange cycles of Christine Blasey Ford’s accusations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

In Orwell’s world of 1984 Oceania, there is no longer a sense of due process, free inquiry, rules of evidence and cross examination, much less a presumption of innocence until proven guilty. Instead, regimented ideology — the supremacy of state power to control all aspects of one’s life to enforce a fossilized idea of mandated quality — warps everything from the use of language to private life.

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Truth, due process, evidence, rights of the accused: All are swept aside in pursuit of the progressive agenda.

George Orwell’s 1949 dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four is no longer fiction. We are living it right now.

Google techies planned to massage Internet searches to emphasize correct thinking. A member of the so-called deep state, in an anonymous op-ed, brags that its “resistance” is undermining an elected president. The FBI, CIA, DOJ, and NSC were all weaponized in 2016 to ensure that the proper president would be elected — the choice adjudicated by properly progressive ideology. Wearing a wire is now redefined as simply flipping on an iPhone and recording your boss, boy- or girlfriend, or co-workers.

But never has the reality that we are living in a surreal age been clearer than during the strange cycles of Christine Blasey Ford’s accusations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

In Orwell’s world of 1984 Oceania, there is no longer a sense of due process, free inquiry, rules of evidence and cross examination, much less a presumption of innocence until proven guilty. Instead, regimented ideology — the supremacy of state power to control all aspects of one’s life to enforce a fossilized idea of mandated quality — warps everything from the use of language to private life.

Oceania’s Rules

Senator Diane Feinstein and the other Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee had long sought to destroy the Brett Kavanaugh nomination. Much of their paradoxical furor over his nomination arises from the boomeranging of their own past political blunders, such as when Democrats ended the filibuster on judicial nominations, in 2013. They also canonized the so-called 1992 Biden Rule, which holds that the Senate should not consider confirming the Supreme Court nomination of a lame-duck president (e.g., George H. W. Bush) in an election year.

Rejecting Kavanaugh proved a hard task given that he had a long record of judicial opinions and writings — and there was nothing much in them that would indicate anything but a sharp mind, much less any ideological, racial, or sexual intolerance. His personal life was impeccable, his family admirable.

Kavanaugh was no combative Robert Bork, but congenial, and he patiently answered all the questions asked of him, despite constant demonstrations and pre-planned street-theater interruptions from the Senate gallery and often obnoxious grandstanding by “I am Spartacus” Democratic senators.

So Kavanaugh was going to be confirmed unless a bombshell revelation derailed the vote. And so we got a bombshell.

Weeks earlier, Senator Diane Feinstein had received a written allegation against Kavanaugh of sexual battery by an accuser who wished to remain anonymous. Feinstein sat on it for nearly two months, probably because she thought the charges were either spurious or unprovable. Until a few days ago, she mysteriously refused to release the full text of the redacted complaint, and she has said she does not know whether the very accusations that she purveyed are believable. Was she reluctant to memorialize the accusations by formally submitting them to the Senate Judiciary Committee, because doing so makes Ford subject to possible criminal liability if the charges prove demonstrably untrue?

The gambit was clearly to use the charges as a last-chance effort to stop the nomination — but only if Kavanaugh survived the cross examinations during the confirmation hearing. Then, in extremis, Feinstein finally referenced the charge, hoping to keep it anonymous, but, at the same time, to hint of its serious nature and thereby to force a delay in the confirmation. Think something McCarthesque, like “I have here in my hand the name . . .”

Delay would mean that the confirmation vote could be put off until after the midterm election, and a few jeopardized Democratic senators in Trump states would not have to go on record voting no on Kavanaugh. Or the insidious innuendos, rumor, and gossip about Kavanaugh would help to bleed him to death by a thousand leaks and, by association, tank Republican chances at retaining the House. (Republicans may or may not lose the House over the confirmation circus, but they most surely will lose their base and, with it, the Congress if they do not confirm Kavanaugh.)

Feinstein’s anonymous trick did not work. So pressure mounted to reveal or leak Ford’s identity and thereby force an Anita-Hill–like inquest that might at least show old white men Republican senators as insensitive to a vulnerable and victimized woman.

The problem, of course, was that, under traditional notions of jurisprudence, Ford’s allegations simply were not provable. But America soon discovered that civic and government norms no longer follow the Western legal tradition. In Orwellian terms, Kavanaugh was now at the mercy of the state. He was tagged with sexual battery at first by an anonymous accuser, and then upon revelation of her identity, by a left-wing, political activist psychology professor and her more left-wing, more politically active lawyer.

Newspeak and Doublethink

Statue of limitations? It does not exist. An incident 36 years ago apparently is as fresh today as it was when Kavanaugh was 17 and Ford 15.

Presumption of Innocence? Not at all. Kavanaugh is accused and thereby guilty. The accuser faces no doubt. In Orwellian America, the accused must first present his defense, even though he does not quite know what he is being charged with. Then the accuser and her legal team pour over his testimony to prepare her accusation.

Evidence? That too is a fossilized concept. Ford could name neither the location of the alleged assault nor the date or time. She had no idea how she arrived or left the scene of the alleged crime. There is no physical evidence of an attack. And such lacunae in her memory mattered no longer at all.

Details? Again, such notions are counterrevolutionary. Ford said to her therapist 6 years ago (30 years after the alleged incident) that there were four would-be attackers, at least as recorded in the therapist’s notes.

But now she has claimed that there were only two assaulters: Kavanaugh and a friend. In truth, all four people — now including a female — named in her accusations as either assaulters or witnesses have insisted that they have no knowledge of the event, much less of wrongdoing wherever and whenever Ford claims the act took place. That they deny knowledge is at times used as proof by Ford’s lawyers that the event 36 years was traumatic.

An incident at 15 is so seared into her lifelong memory that at 52 Ford has no memory of any of the events or details surrounding that unnamed day, except that she is positive that 17-year-old Brett Kavanaugh, along with four? three? two? others, was harassing her. She has no idea where or when she was assaulted but still assures that Kavanaugh and his friend Mark Judge were drunk, but that she and the others (?) merely had only the proverbial teenage “one beer.” Most people are more likely to know where they were at a party than the exact number of alcoholic beverages they consumed — but not so much about either after 36 years.

Testimony? No longer relevant. It doesn’t matter that Kavanaugh and the other alleged suspect both deny the allegations and have no memory of being in the same locale with Ford 36 years ago. In sum, all the supposed partiers, both male and female, now swear, under penalty of felony, that they have no memory of any of the incidents that Ford claims occurred so long ago. That Ford cannot produce a single witness to confirm her narrative or refute theirs is likewise of no concern. So far, she has singularly not submitted a formal affidavit or given a deposition that would be subject to legal exposure if untrue.

Again, the ideological trumps the empirical. “All women must be believed” is the testament, and individuals bow to the collective. Except, as in Orwell’s Animal Farm, there are ideological exceptions — such as Bill Clinton, Keith Ellison, Sherrod Brown, and Joe Biden. The slogan of Ford’s psychodrama is “All women must be believed, but some women are more believable than others.” That an assertion becomes fact due to the prevailing ideology and gender of the accuser marks the destruction of our entire system of justice.

Rights of the accused? They too do not exist. In the American version of 1984, the accuser, a.k.a. the more ideologically correct party, dictates to authorities the circumstances under which she will be investigated and cross-examined: She will demand all sorts of special considerations of privacy and exemptions; Kavanaugh will be forced to return and face cameras and the public to prove that he was not then, and has never been since, a sexual assaulter.

In our 1984 world, the accused is considered guilty if merely charged, and the accuser is a victim who can ruin a life but must not under any circumstance be made uncomfortable in proving her charges.

Doublespeak abounds. “Victim” solely refers to the accuser, not the accused, who one day was Brett Kavanaugh, a brilliant jurist and model citizen, and the next morning woke up transformed into some sort of Kafkaesque cockroach. The media and political operatives went in a nanosecond from charging that she was groped and “assaulted” to the claim that she was “raped.”

In our 1984, the phrase “must be believed” is doublespeak for “must never face cross-examination.”

Ford should be believed or not believed on the basis of evidence, not her position, gender, or politics. I certainly did not believe Joe Biden, simply because he was a U.S. senator, when, as Neal Kinnock’s doppelganger, he claimed that he came from a long line of coal miners — any more than I believed that Senator Corey Booker really had a gang-banger Socratic confidant named “T-Bone,” or that would-be senator Richard Blumenthal was an anguished Vietnam combat vet or that Senator Elizabeth Warren was a Native American. (Do we need a 25th Amendment for unhinged senators?) Wanting to believe something from someone who is ideologically correct does not translate into confirmation of truth.

Ford supposedly in her originally anonymous accusation had insisted that she had sought “medical treatment” for her assault. The natural assumption is that such a term would mean that, soon after the attack, the victim sought a doctor’s or emergency room’s help to address either her physical or mental injuries — records might therefore be a powerful refutation of Kavanaugh’s denials.

But “medical treatment” now means that 30 years after the alleged assault, Ford sought counseling for some sort of “relationship” or “companion” therapy, or what might legitimately be termed “marriage counseling.” And in the course of her discussions with her therapist about her marriage, she first spoke of her alleged assault three decades earlier. She did not then name Kavanaugh to her therapist, whose notes are at odds with Ford’s current version.

Memory Holes

Then we come to Orwell’s idea of “memory holes,” or mechanisms to wipe clean inconvenient facts that disrupt official ideological narratives. Shortly after Ford was named, suddenly her prior well-publicized and self-referential social-media revelations vanished, as if she’d never held her minor-league but confident pro-Sanders, anti-Trump opinions. And much of her media and social-media accounts were erased as well.

Similarly, one moment the New York Times — just coming off an embarrassing lie in reporting that U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley had ordered new $50,000 office drapes on the government dime — reported that Kavanaugh’s alleged accomplice, Mark Judge, had confirmed Ford’s allegation. Indeed, in a sensational scoop, according to the Times, Judge told the Judiciary Committee that he does remember the episode and has nothing more to say. In fact, Judge told the committee the very opposite: that he does not remember the episode. Forty minutes later, the Times embarrassing narrative vanished down the memory hole.

The online versions of some of the yearbooks of Ford’s high school from the early 1980s vanished as well. At times, they had seemed to take a perverse pride in the reputation of the all-girls school for underage drinking, carousing, and, on rarer occasions, “passing out” at parties. Such activities were supposed to be the monopoly and condemnatory landscape of the “frat boy” and spoiled-white-kid Kavanaugh — and certainly not the environment in which the noble Ford navigated. Seventeen-year-old Kavanaugh was to play the role of a falling-down drunk; Ford, with impressive powers of memory of an event 36 years past, assures us that as a circumspect 15-year-old, she had only “one beer.”

A former teenage friend of Ford’s sent out a flurry of social-media postings, allegedly confirming that Ford’s ordeal was well known to her friends in 1982 and so her assault narrative must therefore be confirmed. Then, when challenged on some of her incoherent details (schools are not in session during summertime, and Ford is on record as not telling anyone of the incident for 30 years), she mysteriously claimed that she no longer could stand by her earlier assertions, which likewise soon vanished from her social-media account. Apparently, she had assumed that in 2018 Oceania ideologically correct citizens merely needed to lodge an accusation and it would be believed, without any obligation on her part to substantiate her charges.

When a second accuser, Deborah Ramirez, followed Ford seven days later to allege another sexual incident with the teenage Kavanaugh, at Yale 35 years ago, it was no surprise that she followed the now normal Orwellian boilerplate: None of those whom she named as witnesses could either confirm her charges or even remember the alleged event. She had altered her narrative after consultations with lawyers and handlers. She too confesses to underage drinking during the alleged event. She too is currently a social and progressive political activist. The only difference from Ford’s narrative is that Ramirez’s accusation was deemed not credible enough to be reported even by the New York Times, which recently retracted false stories about witness Mark Judge in the Ford case, and which falsely reported that U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley had charged the government for $50,000 office drapes.

As in 1984, “truths” in these sorts of allegations do not exist unless they align with the larger “Truth” of the progressive project. In our case, the overarching Truth mandates that, in a supposedly misogynist society, women must always be believed in all their accusations and should be exempt from all counter-examinations.

Little “truths” — such as the right of the accused, the need to produce evidence, insistence on cross-examination, and due process — are counterrevolutionary constructs and the refuge of reactionary hold-outs who are enemies of the people. Or in the words of Hawaii senator Mazie Hirono:

Guess who’s perpetuating all of these kinds of actions? It’s the men in this country. And I just want to say to the men in this country, “Just shut up and step up. Do the right thing, for a change.”

The View’s Joy Behar was more honest about the larger Truth: “These white men, old by the way, are not protecting women,” Behar exclaimed. “They’re protecting a man who is probably guilty.” We thank Behar for the concession “probably.”

According to some polls, about half the country believes that Brett Kavanaugh is now guilty of a crime committed 36 years ago at the age of 17. And that reality reminds us that we are no longer in America. We are already living well into the socialist totalitarian Hell that Orwell warned us about long ago.
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You find the shittiest takes on the entire planet. Makes sense, considering you're supporting a complete ★■◆●ing scumbag.
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I watched most of that hearing on Thursday. I completely believe that Kavanaugh assaulted Ford. The entirety of her testimony dripped honesty and sincerity. And his complete denial that he was your average sh!tty dude bro growing up makes his denial of the sh!tty dude bro adjacent assault unconvincing. I'm sure others might have a different opinion, but it's not even the assault that is most disqualifying for me. If he owned up to being your average sh!tty dude bro that made "mistakes" in his youth, I'd have a hard time saying he was unfit. But no, he didn't have the integrity. The honesty. The thin veneer of impartial judge was stripped away, and we saw a partisan warrior willing to dissemble under oath. That's all decidedly bad for a prospective Supreme Court Justice.

My question is why are they so all-in on this guy? Why not just dump him out and select the next person on the Federalist Society list? Is it the timing? Is there something special about this guy?
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Well, the truth is being twisted by Kavanaugh himself, who's willing to lie to Congress to gloss over up old indiscretions and bad habits. If he's willing to lie to Congress (he's done it before as well), he's not an honorable or trustworthy man. His performance in front of Congress also showed us that he's too partisan, emotionally unstable and unsuitable to be nominated as a member of SCOTUS. All he could do was blame the Dems and the Clintons, of all people, for his own past crappy behavior that's now come back to haunt him. Poor baby. What a con artist. The GOP had their chance to nominate a solidly staunch conservative. What they gave us was someone who was a drunken slob of a spoiled prep student in his youth who also thought of women as objects to sexually conquer and brag about to the others in his little drunken pubescent circle. I hope the FBI can expose this bastard for what he is, a little teen-aged prick who was a spoiled drunken sexual predator while he attended a preppie rich kid's school on his rich parent's dime.

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Vander wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:33 pmThat's all decidedly bad for a prospective Supreme Court Justice.
Your description mirrors my thoughts exactly. There was a right way to handle this hearing and he basically did the exact opposite.
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Well I found the type of people who believe Kavanaugh in my lunch room today. It was hideously depressing.
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Ruh-roh....

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Uh-huh.

Seriously. You support this sack of ★■◆●. You don't have a shred of morality left to stand on. You're nothing.
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Nightshade wrote:Ruh-roh....
$600 in the 90's?
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Top Gun wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:17 pm Well I found the type of people who believe Kavanaugh in my lunch room today. It was hideously depressing.
This man doesn't support him either.

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So we're putting someone who dishonestly interprets what he wrote in his own yearbook 40 years ago onto the Supreme Court to interpret what people wrote 200 years ago. Seems like a good idea. Maybe "Judicial Review" was really a drinking game. Like quarters.
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Vander wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:36 pm So we're putting someone who dishonestly interprets what he wrote in his own yearbook 40 years ago onto the Supreme Court to interpret what people wrote 200 years ago. Seems like a good idea. Maybe "Judicial Review" was really a drinking game. Like quarters.
That's nothing. More than half the country almost elected a woman president that left Americans to die because the political narrative would have been inconvenient.
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Do you really believe that?
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Vander wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:58 pm Do you really believe that?
I guess you were under a rock when the massacre of Americans happened on 9/11/2012 in Benghazi- when they were left to die after they repeatedly asked for aid and rescue.
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Vander wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:58 pm Do you really believe that?
Narrator: "He does."
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Oh the irony of TB bringing up Benghazi in this thread. Mother ★■◆●ing Capital "H" Hypocrite.
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Nightshade wrote:I guess you were under a rock
Not really, I loosely followed things. What, specifically, did Clinton supposedly do that "left Americans to die because the political narrative would have been inconvenient?" I've never been clear on this. I mean, are we talking a 'buck stops here' type blame as head of the State Department? Was she micromanaging security details, threat assessments, and rescue efforts?

Maybe you can enlighten me.
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Krom wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 6:42 am Oh the irony of TB bringing up Benghazi in this thread. Mother ★■◆●ing Capital "H" Hypocrite.
Again with the benghazi bull★■◆●?

★■◆● sakes, he's got such a hard-on for it that he's painted his room white.
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It's fantastic that we get to interact with a living, breathing example of this country's descent to ★■◆● every single day. Really makes you grateful, y'know?
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Vander wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:36 pm So we're putting someone who dishonestly interprets what he wrote in his own yearbook 40 years ago onto the Supreme Court to interpret what people wrote 200 years ago. Seems like a good idea. Maybe "Judicial Review" was really a drinking game. Like quarters.
We've also just put into the hallowed halls of SCOTUS a man that actually talked about, or perhaps even partook in the act of, "boofing", AKA butt chugging. Funnel anyone? He also lied to the Senate about his definition of this gross act during his testimony. Nice. On top of that, we now have 2 sexual abusers sitting on the highest court in the land and they're both GOP nominees. Does anyone sense a pattern here? :wink:

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Republicans don't have a shred of morality to stand on.
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Top Gun wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:21 am Republicans don't have a shred of morality to stand on.
You just keep telling yourself that as the democrat administration before Trump stacked bodies high into the thousands across the world.
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You're really going to ★■◆●ing play that game. Bush. Cheney. Rumsfeld. Iraqi civilian deaths in the hundreds of thousands. Get bent.
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LOL.
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Top Gun wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:11 pm You're really going to ★■◆●ing play that game. Bush. Cheney. Rumsfeld. Iraqi civilian deaths in the hundreds of thousands. Get bent.
Scratch that, it's probably hundreds of thousands. We have at least two new failed states AND Ukraine's civil war due to Obama/Clinton.
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TAKE. ★■◆●ing. OWNERSHIP. [Deleted - Personal Shot]

You should seriously be barred from voting for life. You're entirely too goddamn delusional to be able to have any say in this country's future.
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Nightshade wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:42 pm
Top Gun wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:11 pm You're really going to ★■◆●ing play that game. Bush. Cheney. Rumsfeld. Iraqi civilian deaths in the hundreds of thousands. Get bent.
Scratch that, it's probably hundreds of thousands. We have at least two new failed states AND Ukraine's civil war due to Obama/Clinton.
So your "solution" would have been to send in our troops to fight yet another couple of expensive and prone to failure proxy wars? Don't you think Russia wouldv'e taken extreme exception for our involvement in Ukraine? We still don't have a peaceful solution for Afghanistan, which Bush started YEARS ago and which is on record for the longest war we've ever fought without any resolution.
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Top Gun wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:36 pm It's fantastic that we get to interact with a living, breathing example of this country's descent to ★■◆● every single day. Really makes you grateful, y'know?
Honestly, I'd rather see it as a footnote in history... with people like TB and Trump completely forgotten.

Although, I suspect that being forgotten is both their biggest fears. It would explain why we see a daily dose of mental vomit here.

Tunnelcat wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:37 pm

We've also just put into the hallowed halls of SCOTUS a man that actually talked about, or perhaps even partook in the act of, "boofing", AKA butt chugging. Funnel anyone? He also lied to the Senate about his definition of this gross act during his testimony. Nice. On top of that, we now have 2 sexual abusers sitting on the highest court in the land and they're both GOP nominees. Does anyone sense a pattern here? :wink:

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A suspected case of a few american soldiers dying that turned up nothing vs more crimes than the ★■◆●ing vatican?

This isn't aimed at you tunnelcat.. but what I'm about to say is aimed squarely at conservatives, specifically republicans, and most especially trumpians. If you think both sides are the same after knowing these facts, you can go choke on a horsedick. If you support the GOP still, even after knowing all this, you support criminal scum, and I for one would cheer to see your sorry panty waste load of overchewed bubblegum ass conscripted and sent to fight a war you were frothing-at-the-mouth supporting. And don't expect any support for when you come back, seeing as that's what the party you loved was doing to other vets.

And before you even try it; No, I will not respond to you. I won't reply to you. I won't engage you. Because you are far too stupid to even pass grade five, let alone understand nuance or context. You simply cannot be trusted to put the interests of anybody else over yourself or your party. You should be fired from society because you are not pulling your weight.

As an addendum regarding due process and rights of the accused -- did anyone see a judge, jury, prosecutor, defense lawyer or a stenographer while it was going on? No? That's because it wasn't a ★■◆●ing trial. It was a question and answer period in front of a committee. Due process, rights of the accused and other matters of law only comes into play when it is taking place in a court of ★■◆●ing trial. So stop trying to poison the goddamn well, learn some legal concepts and learn where they ★■◆●ing take place. This is ★■◆● a ten year old understands.
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"Whatever happens, I'm just glad we ruined Brett Kavanaugh's life."

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Are you saying we shouldn't ruin rapists' lives? Guess you would.
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"both sides are the same!" while making a pass for abhorrent behaviour.


fap fap fap ping.

And for your consideration... a breakdown on the hearing
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Nightshade wrote: Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:17 am "Whatever happens, I'm just glad we ruined Brett Kavanaugh's life."

— "The Late Show" writer Ariel Dumas
Frankly, so am I. The bastard deserved it. Kavanaugh ruined Ford's life that day decades ago when he couldn't control his drunken sexual urges and thought it would be fun to attempt to rape a drunken non-consenting teen-aged girl. Now as an adult, Ford is having to relive the same ordeal of being not believed all over again. Wash, rinse, repeat, for nearly every woman or girl who's ever been afraid of coming forward in a situation like this and worried about being believed or taken seriously. That's why most women never report it, fear of being put through the ringer just for speaking up. When it comes down to it, it's always her fault for being in the wrong place at the wrong time and she should've know better. :twisted:
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"Boys will be boys..."

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Dirty old bastard. You're talking to the choir. :deadhorse:
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